On The VERGE.

I got a chance to talk with Matt Carter, the Lead Pastor of Austin Stone when he interviewed me for a Verge podcast on the topic of gospel-centered missional communities.  If you are interested, click on the logo and then underneath my pic is a place where you can listen to our conversation.  

I am convinced that the new tomorrow for prevailing churches of all kinds (mega, multi-site and incarnational) will be through empowering lay people to lead creative gospel-centered missional communities.  Verge is a missional community conference that will feature a terrific group of speakers including Francis Chan, Alan Hirsch, Matt Carter, Dave Gibbons, Neil Cole, Hugh Halter, John Burke and myself.  I personally don't think we need more church leadership conferences, but we do need one on this topic!

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